Questioner: Who causes friction, the inanimate matter
(jada) or the living entity (Chetan)?
Dadashri: Friction of the past is indeed what creates friction. There is no question of the non-Self or the Self in this. The Self does not interfere in this at all. The non-Self complex (pudgal) is indeed what causes all this friction. However, it is friction from the past that is causing friction again. The one for whom friction from the past has exhausted, for him friction will not arise again. Otherwise, friction begets friction, which in turn leads to more friction; it keeps increasing in this way. The non-Self complex is not entirely inanimate, it is mishrachetan (‘I’ with wrong belief that arises as a mixture of the Self and non-Self). This is referred to as vibhaavik pudgal. Vibhaavik means the non-Self complex that has arisen out of extra intent. That is what causes everything to happen. The inanimate matter (pudgal) that is pure will not cause this to happen. This pudgal has become mishrachetan. The extra intent of the Self and the extra intent of the non-Self came together and gave rise to a third form. It has taken the form of the prakruti (the visible form created in an ignorant state by the continuous instillation of the false attribution that ‘I am Chandubhai’); that is what causes all the friction.
Questioner: Where there is no friction, does that mean a true intent of non-violence has developed?
Dadashri: No, it is nothing like that. But now you have realized, ‘If there is this much to be gained by clashing with a wall, then how much is there to be gained by clashing with God?’ By realizing only this much, the transformation continues to take place within you. Ahimsa (non-violence through mind, speech, and action) cannot be completely understood and it is very difficult to explain it in its entirety. Instead, if you just grasp this much, ‘I do not ever want to get into friction,’ then your energies will remain deposited, and day by day the energies keep increasing. Thereafter, loss incurred through friction will not take place! If friction does take place at times, then it can be erased by doing pratikraman (exact method of reversal from aggression through recall, apology, and resolution to not repeat the error). So you should recognize where friction occurs and there you should do pratikraman. Otherwise, there are grave consequences. With this Knowledge of the Self, you will attain liberation, however by getting into friction you will encounter a lot of obstacles, and [liberation] will be delayed. There is no problem if negative thoughts arise for this wall, because the loss is one-sided. Whereas if even a single negative thought arises for a living being, then that is detrimental. Losses will be incurred on both sides. However, if you do pratikraman for it, then all the faults will be erased. Therefore, do pratikraman wherever friction arises, so the friction will come to an end.
Dadashri: Friction of the past is indeed what creates friction. There is no question of the non-Self or the Self in this. The Self does not interfere in this at all. The non-Self complex (pudgal) is indeed what causes all this friction. However, it is friction from the past that is causing friction again. The one for whom friction from the past has exhausted, for him friction will not arise again. Otherwise, friction begets friction, which in turn leads to more friction; it keeps increasing in this way. The non-Self complex is not entirely inanimate, it is mishrachetan (‘I’ with wrong belief that arises as a mixture of the Self and non-Self). This is referred to as vibhaavik pudgal. Vibhaavik means the non-Self complex that has arisen out of extra intent. That is what causes everything to happen. The inanimate matter (pudgal) that is pure will not cause this to happen. This pudgal has become mishrachetan. The extra intent of the Self and the extra intent of the non-Self came together and gave rise to a third form. It has taken the form of the prakruti (the visible form created in an ignorant state by the continuous instillation of the false attribution that ‘I am Chandubhai’); that is what causes all the friction.
Questioner: Where there is no friction, does that mean a true intent of non-violence has developed?
Dadashri: No, it is nothing like that. But now you have realized, ‘If there is this much to be gained by clashing with a wall, then how much is there to be gained by clashing with God?’ By realizing only this much, the transformation continues to take place within you. Ahimsa (non-violence through mind, speech, and action) cannot be completely understood and it is very difficult to explain it in its entirety. Instead, if you just grasp this much, ‘I do not ever want to get into friction,’ then your energies will remain deposited, and day by day the energies keep increasing. Thereafter, loss incurred through friction will not take place! If friction does take place at times, then it can be erased by doing pratikraman (exact method of reversal from aggression through recall, apology, and resolution to not repeat the error). So you should recognize where friction occurs and there you should do pratikraman. Otherwise, there are grave consequences. With this Knowledge of the Self, you will attain liberation, however by getting into friction you will encounter a lot of obstacles, and [liberation] will be delayed. There is no problem if negative thoughts arise for this wall, because the loss is one-sided. Whereas if even a single negative thought arises for a living being, then that is detrimental. Losses will be incurred on both sides. However, if you do pratikraman for it, then all the faults will be erased. Therefore, do pratikraman wherever friction arises, so the friction will come to an end.
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